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November 25

Dara Huang

Dara Huang

Re number 5 is not quite right. Please fix - I cannot do this, sorry. Srbernadette (talk) 03:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Srbernadette Fixed. There was a special character in the date parameter, and the date was incomplete. Sandcat555 (talk) 03:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Automated edit count?

Would anyone know if it's possible to automate the edit count figure on my user page? Sandcat555 (talk) 03:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

perhaps with a bot or something? Sandcat555 (talk) 03:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I could have sworn this was possible, but the best I can find for you right now is Template:Editcount. -- asilvering (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Various stats for your account are available here: https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Sandcat555 and are usually up to date (occasionally there can be a lag of a couple of minutes). Feline Hymnic (talk) 12:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but that won't automate the edit count on someone's userpage. -- asilvering (talk) 16:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Asilvering Would a bot somehow be able to see the wmcloud page and then auto edit my userpage? Sandcat555 (talk) 21:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Bot requests/Frequently denied bots#Bots to update edit counts. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Dang. I was really hoping this was a thing. Sandcat555 (talk) 03:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@Feline Hymnic I already have that linked on my userpage. I was wondering if the actual number can be automatically updated Sandcat555 (talk) 21:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Sandcat555 If you activate the gadget navigation popups then one of the things you get when you hover over another user's name (or your own) is information including edit count. That's all I need to see you are currently at 765 edits. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

(untitled)

I gave you $110 a few years ago. Seeing that you're constantly begging for a $2.75 "donation", I should be exempt for the next 33+ years. 2600:1700:F100:6520:FD88:3207:2D2:B365 (talk) 07:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no way to link donations to a specific account or IP address. You are not obliged to donate, and if you don't want to, you can always close the annoying ads. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

One of the problems with IP editing is that you do get to see regular messages asking for donations. If you are logged in as a user, you can avoid this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

You both read my mind; FYI, see what I said above about concerns over donations. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 13:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Help with NPS sources

Hello,

NPS nomination forms have a section for "representation in existing surveys," as seen here on the bottom of the first page. What does this mean? Does it have something to do with a broader area-wide geographic survey, or a more specific historical site survey? Thanks so much!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 09:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Answered at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Help with NPS sources

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 22:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Signature

Hello, I'm trying to make my signature but it can't be fixed. Here's what my signature should look like: Garudam ^Talk!

But as you can see it's currently messed. Please someone tell me how it can be fixed? And what error I'm making in this syntax: '''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]}</span>''' (talk) 12:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Garudam: Select "Treat the above as wiki markup" below the signature field. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter I did exactly but it shows some syntax error like "span" '''<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color:black">'''Garudam'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!''''']]}</span>''' (talk) 12:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Garudam: You are missing two </span> as the message should say. Adding them should work: '''<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color: black;">'''Garudam'''</span>]]</span> '''<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!'''''</span>]]</sup>. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

That helps @PrimeHunter Thanks. Garudam ^Talk! 13:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

John Perrot Quaker - Add image

Hi, I have uploaded a copyright free Wikimedia Commons image of the above but am struggling to incorporate it in the article. Your help would be much appreciated, I used to be able to do this but I'm getting old!

• c:File:John Perrot Quaker.png
• John Perrot (Quaker)

Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Horatius At The Bridge: I have added it to {{Infobox person}} with |image=.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks PrimeHunter

Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 13:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Margaret Greville

There are two pages about Margaret Greville. I am a Research Historian - as a Volunteer at Polesden Lacey. I have written a book also which is the Maggie Greville Story. I have researched for more than thirteen years the history of Maggie Greville, her father William McEwan and Polesden Lacey. I wish to change the existing article totally.It contains misinformation. It is not correct. I have a huge number of references to prove my research. How can I remove the existing article and provide a new article which tells the truth, and is far more interesting? 13truthknown (talk) 14:11, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@13truthknown You do not start a new article, you improve the existing one, one bit at a time. A WP-article on any subject is meant to be a summary of reliable sources (WP:RS) on that subject, and if you wish to make edits that can "stick", you need to understand what sources are considered reliable around here, and guidance like WP:SELFCITE. You need to know how to add references correctly in the WP-environment, this is essential, WP:TUTORIAL has a start on that.

My suggestion is: start small. Make a few edits, see what happens, then make a few more. If other editors react, WP:COMMUNICATE. Do not throw out existing sources in favor of your book. If your book is WP:SELFPUB, don't use it as a source at all. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Btw, if you meant there are two WP-articles about Margaret Greville, which is the other one, please? That might need fixing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@13truthknown Incidentally, Wikipedia doesn't claim to give readers the truth (see that link). Instead, by policy, we ensure that facts in our articles can be verified from the sources we quote. The article on Margaret Greville was first created in 2007 and has been improved incrementally by many editors since then, which is why you should follow Gråbergs Gråa Sång's advice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@13truthknown, as has already been said, a self-written book, particularly if self-published or published by a vanity press is never going to be an acceptable source. If you have access to proper independent verifiable sources, by all means use them to improve the article, but no original research please Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Margaret Greville, 6th Baroness Willoughby de Broke is a different person Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Just a heads-up that an SPA removed a referenced section regarding Greville's pro-Nazi inclinations Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

That's... technically correct, I guess. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Username

Help please every username I offer has been taken no matter how random Gnasher24 (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Gnasher24, you already have a Wikipedia account (your username is @Gnasher24). So unsure what you are asking here? qcne (talk) 16:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Also, WP has over 116 million registered user-accounts, that's quite a lot of taken user-names. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gnasher24 Gnasher25 is available (etc). Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gnasher24 You can use Special:ListUsers to search over existing usernames and see what might be available. Read the instructions at the top of that page carefully. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

A username can also be rejected if it looks too similar to an existing name. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Suggested edits paused

Hello, I noticed that my suggested edits have been paused until December 1, 2024. The notification mentioned some contributions were reverted, but I wasn't provided with specific details. Could someone please help clarify why this happened and how I can resolve it? Thank you. Lokkyboy ([User talk : Lokkyboy|talk]) 17:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lokkyboy (talk • contribs)

I can't tell what you are referring to. Please clarify: where did you make these suggested edits? ColinFine (talk) 19:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I think they are referring to the Suggested edits widget on Special:Homepage qcne (talk) 20:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Lokkyboy: You have apparently encountered a feature specific to the Android app: mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks#Suggested Edits 3.0 - Improved Suggested Edits Homescreen and Feature Pausing (released 25 November 2019). I had not heard about it before and don't know what triggered it. The only edits at Special:Contributions/Lokkyboy with the "Reverted" tag are four edits in April and May 2022. I don't know whether the feature looks back so far when you have few edits since then. I suggest you just try again after December 1 if you want to use suggested edits. You are free to edit in other ways, e.g. finding tasks at Wikipedia:Community portal#Help out. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

November 26

Asking for views about validity of an List of public elementary schools in New York City

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I was unsure where to ask this question, so I would like to post a redirection from here to my question.

Wikipedia:Teahouse#Validity_of_an_Wikipedia:Notability_§_Stand-alone_lists_article

It is a question of the validity of an article in English. TarantaBabu (talk) 10:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@TarantaBabu no need to crosspost. Both the Teahouse and Help desk are for asking questions related to editing Wikipedia. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Mobile app logout issue

I'm using am Android phone, using dark mode for the Wikipedia app. On the mobile app, usually when I load talk pages, they render as a white mode web page, and I'll be logged out. Sometimes I can work around it, but both the work around and the error aren't consistent.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

I think the error occurs if I directly open the talk page link - if I navigate there from the article/Wikipedia space via the drop down, then it works fine and I'm not logged out.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

I'd also check out this Android app FAQ to see if there's a way around it (to my knowledge, you'll have to try going through here via your browser). 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 16:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

For what it's worth, this sometimes happens to me, as well. But I'm using the website on iOS Safari, not the Android app. And I've never had any issues with logging back in. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 09:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

It wouldn't be that much of an issue if I could figure out how to log back in when this happens. But I can't find anywhere to do that.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Indigenous identity friad

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hello I have attempted to go through the proper channels in wiki. A profile is being inaccurately listed as indigenous for a person who has no indigenous ancestry. This type of misinformation is a form of colonial erasure and upholds racism. I have opened what I hope would be a dialogue about it, as an indigenous person myself this is a very important issue to me but instead of being heard with understanding the person in the chat and who is exclusively modifying this wiki page is arguing with me and gaslighting my valid concerns. Can somebody who is not bias please come be apart of this discussion and hear out why they change is necessary and should be protected. This is the dialogue. Talk:Jani Lauzon#Identity Fraud 135.12.162.209 (talk) 17:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

I see, and (forgive me if I misread this) it's a case of pretending to be indigenous when, apparently and accordingly, she's not. This is backed by reliable sources, right? You may, if necessary, bring this to the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

It should be noted that [2] doesn't provide evidence supporting the conclusion that Lauzon is not Indigenous. I did cite it in the article as evidence that her identity has been called into question, but since the evidence isn't shown in the report like it is for other reporting on "Pretendians", I think accepting it as fact enough to remove "Metis" from the lede would fall foul of WP:GRAPEVINE. AceSevenFive (talk) 18:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

It seems to me that you claim to have actual, reliable evidence that she isn't indigenous. Yet you refuse to provide it, citing privacy issues. No one's going to force you to reveal it, but unless you do, you cannot reasonably expect us to just take your word for it. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 09:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Now it's gone way too far... 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Island of Montreal

Hello,

On the page Island of Montreal, the map in the infobox displays the place name to the right of the coordinates, overlapping with the data under the map. Would someone know how to put the place name above the coordinates, as there is plenty of space there? Thanks.

17:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC) ActiveContributor2020 (talk) 17:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@ActiveContributor2020: I have added pushpin_label_position = top and {{nowrap}}.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 18:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Sandbox to Draft namespace

Hi, I have a draft about Dodge Woodall in my sandbox: Sandbox.

Could someone help move it to the Draft namespace with the title `Draft:Dodge Woodall`?

I don’t meet the auto confirmed requirements yet (4 days old, 10 edits), and I need to publish this ASAP.

Thank you! Josh Haines (talk) 18:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@Josh Haines If you add the template {{User sandbox}} to the top of your sandbox, it will give you a link which will allow you to submit the draft directly for review. There is no need to move it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@Josh Haines -- a few things on this topic. Before moving it over, please take some time to review WP:BLP as this article still has some problems that should be addressed before you bring more attention to it, and it might subsequently be speedily deleted. The second is to take a moment to look at WP:PAID as it looks like (based on your username) you might have a financial relationship with Woodall. Creating such articles are not prohibited, but they can be problematic for people who do not understand the processes involved. TiggerJay (talk) 18:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your feedback, could you please notify me as to how to cater to the things you've just told me?

What would you recommend changing quickly to avoid deletion? Josh Haines (talk) 19:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

You might start by removing bold text, overly promotional language, and the rather spammy links. You also need to find better sources. See WP:BLP. Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

What I would recommend is that you take a moment and click on those blue links that start with WP listed above. Read through those and apply as appropriate. TiggerJay (talk) 22:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Why the need to publish this ASAP, Josh Haines? -- Hoary (talk) 21:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

November 27

adding a page

Hi, I just joined on as an editor. I am referenced on many pages on Wikipedia but don't have my own page to link those reference to. Instead, they are credited to someone who has the same name as me. I want to rectify this by adding myself and information on a brand new page. Any advice from folks on how best to accomplish this? Cewal21 (talk) 01:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Based on your question, it sounds like you want to add a page about yourself? If that is correct, please check out WP:AUTOBIO for more information about accomplishing that. TiggerJay (talk) 04:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Cewal21: Hi, Christine. Can you provide a list of those bad links? The ones you added yourself have been reverted, and a cursory look at all of the links to Christine Walters appear to be for the Australian football player. -Arch dude (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

noindex tag found for page, despite no flags/banners

Hello, I have recently published a page under the following link: Matatia Foa'i and it was approved by Wikipedia and published onto the main namespace. The page appears in Wikipedia's internal search results and does not have any visible flags, banners, or issues that I can identify. However, when I checked the source code, I found a noindex tag (<meta name="robots" content="noindex,follow">), which prevents the page from being indexed by search engines like Google. If possible, i would really appreciate knowing why the noindex tag has been applied to this page and what steps I can take to have the tag removed so the page can be indexed. The page is based on reliable and independent sources and meets the notability guidelines to the best of my knowledge. Could someone help me determine why this is happening and how I could resolve it? Thank you kindly for your assistance! Anitanour (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Anitanour new articles are, by default, not indexed by search engines until a new page reviewer has checked it or if 90 days have passed since its creation. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Other issues for more info. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Does this mean that it is only a matter of time rather than something that i would have to fix or address? Anitanour (talk) 04:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

There's not much you need to do - the article is currently in the queue and a reviewer will check it sometime soon. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Citation for an edit

I would like to add the name of a distant relative to the Wiki page "Volga Germans", section entitled "Notable people of Volga German descent". This person already has a Wikipedia page, but his name is not on this list. I know only from family oral history that he belongs on this list, his grandfather and my great-grandfather were brothers who emigrated together from Saratov, Russia to Canada in 1907. I have seen their arrival record on the Ancestry website. Other than that, I do not have any official sources I can cite. Is this sufficient citation? kcmeowski (talk) 05:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

It is helpful that the person you want to add already has an article on Wikipedia, however we still rely upon reliable sources to establish these sorts of inclusions. TiggerJay (talk) 05:06, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

In other words, Kcmeowski, we need a reference to a reliable published source that verifies that your relative was a Volga German. Unpublished family oral history is simply not adequate. Cullen328 (talk) 07:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information

Please create a seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information. 2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF (talk) 06:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

If you're asking for a separate website, then English-language Wikipedia, which is where you are, isn't the place to ask. You might try m:Wikimedia Forum, but your request there would have to be a lot more cogent and persuasive than what you've written above. -- Hoary (talk) 07:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is designed for all ages, so it is unclear why you are asking for a separate website. Have you tried the Simple English Wikipedia? Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

They would be best suited to looking for a job for seniors on Indeed (a search away for that one), not asking for one here. Besides, Wikipedia is not a place for listings. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 14:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

why my edits are not visible on the page??

I recently visit the capcut wikipedia page and there I edited the external link and add the relavent link which was https://capcetapk.com/slow-motion-walk-capcut-template/. But the edit is not updated and showing the previous link. Cletawindler (talk) 09:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Looking at the article edit history(click "View History" at the top) your edit was removed. The editor that did so felt that it was vandalism- I suggest you post on the article talk page to explain the reason for your edit. 331dot (talk) 09:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Even if that edit were not a good one, it is [{WP:NOTVANDAL|not vandalism]] and User:Beachweak should not have referred to it as such. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the editor who undid the edit. At the time this edit looked like vandalism, but obviously it was not and I apologise for jumping the gun. For external links, it's best to consult (WP:ELNO, WP:ELMAYBE and WP:ELYES) in order to ensure future links you add are constructive and contain verifiable research. But, once again, I apologise. Beachweak (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 2600:1700:4FD0:E6D0:F597:27CD:35AC:86FF (talk) 12:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Cletawindler: If this is you, please remember to sign in before you edit or comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Search

I want to do a search. There is no place to enter a search on any page that I could find. Terry W Ryder (talk) 18:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you see a search bar at the top of the page? Or a icon on the top-left? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Special:Search. This is a common topic. Maybe a help-desk FAQ section would be helpful? Departure– (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Use of surname vs maiden name in article body

I’m in a disagreement with another editor at Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (née Carroll) regarding the use of her maiden name in the Early Life section. The other editor used Carroll, citing Hillary Clinton, where Rodham is used for events before her marriage to Bill Clinton. I don't like that inconsistent use of Clinton either, but I assume the reason is that she was notable as Hillary Rodham (due to the size of that article's talk page, I haven’t been able to confirm this) Carroll MacNeill however seems to just be notable under her married name, so I believe that should be used consistently.

It looks like that sort of consistency is mostly noted with things gendered pronouns rather than surnames. Is there something in the MOS that I'm missing, or is there not really a specific rule or suggestion for this kind of scenario? LaffyTaffer (talk) 20:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Why not have a look at MOS:NAME? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 20:40, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I must be missing something there, because I'm only seeing guidelines for the initial mention in the lead, not for how a subject is referred to later on. Even MOS:SURNAME doesn't seem to address things like maiden names as far as I can tell. LaffyTaffer (talk) 20:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

See WP:MAIDEN. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 20:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That's only describing practices for article titles, with a link back to the MOS LaffyTaffer (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Another editor has removed the subject's surname entirely from that section to avoid the disagreement, however I'm still interested to know if there's a guideline to this. I've just looked at Muhammad Ali and seen that he's referred to as Clay for events from before his name change, so I'm very likely wrong here(I expected as much which is why I'm here rather than the article's talk page), however it seems strange to not talk about article subjects using a consistent name throughout, and I'd rather not use WP:OTHERSTUFF as the sole justification. LaffyTaffer (talk) 21:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

There's no reason to be consistent about a subject's name, when they themselves changed it. Before she changed her name, she was born and grew up as Jennifer Carroll, so she should be referred to by that name. Only after she became Jennifer Carroll MacNeill should she be referred to as MacNeill. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Then I suppose then this just boils down to a personal preference of mine that's coloured by related but irrelevant guidelines like MOS:GID. I don't like it, but there seems to be a precedent to alternate between names as needed. Thanks. LaffyTaffer (talk) 22:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

November 28

removing noindex tag from article

Hi folks! I recently wrote an article about an academic and addressed some sourcing and notability concerns (and remove the templates). Can the article be reviewed and the noindex tag removed? Here's the page: Jacqueline Klopp Greatest125 (talk) 02:52, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@Greatest125 The new pages patrol are heavily backlogged. In a brief look, I think that the current {{Primary sources}} tag is exactly correct. None of the sources used meet the golden rules, as far as I can tell, since they are mainly primary ones that are either not independent or don't have significant coverage of Klopp. That means the articles struggles to show how she is notable as an academic. Which criterion do you think she meets? Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Kind of urgent

I just posted a question for the first of all the candidates over at the Arb Committee site, and — because I rarely use the Source Editor — ran into trouble right away. I think the candidate I was writing to was the last one on the list, Krakatoa Katie.

At any rate, my message didn't get into a box — there are some stray numbers on the first and last paragraph — and there's an apostrophe just before the first character of the italicized paragraph. I've come here for help rather than writing the election coordinators because it didn't seem they were actually first responders.

I'm not sure that my question is even visible to others because it didn't go into a box. But if it is visible, it's in bad shape. And I'd really like to post it to all the candidates. TIA (thanks in advance) Augnablik (talk) 05:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Augnablik, I don't see your name in the edit history of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates/KrakatoaKatie/Questions. Can you give a link to where you see the problem? Maproom (talk) 08:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@Maproom, now that I went back to that location I see that the candidate to whom I posted was CaptainEek, not Krakatoa Katie. The first candidate on the list, not the last one. And my message looks a little more correctly formatted than it did earlier. Perhaps someone involved with the election stepped in to make the fix, though there is still a stray number 1 at the beginning of the message and no box. Below is the address. Thanks for helping!

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates/CaptainEek/Questions Augnablik (talk) 08:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@Maproom, I just noticed something in the directions for submitting questions to candidates that I hadn't read before: "Use the |list resume= option to correct list numbering issues, by manually specifying the start point." This seemed relevant to that stray number 1 that got into my message, and sure enough I figured out how to use that option even though it wasn't clear at first. But there is still no box around my message. Augnablik (talk) 10:07, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@Maproom, In addition to no box around my message:

— I can't edit the subject of the question itself. It's got Answer in place of what was there originally, something like Editors with varying Wiki backgrounds and elections like this one.

— |A=}} is visible at the end of the message. No matter where I move that, it's still visible. Augnablik (talk) 11:00, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

FYI

. Fixed, following a message on my Talk Page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:02, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Interlanguage linking to wrong page

Hi there, I'm having an issue that I'm not sure how to fix. On the enwiki page Slávik Awards, all three interlanguage links (Czech, Polish, Slovak) are redirecting to Zlatý slavík (this is actually a separate award), instead of the correct one (https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A1vik_(anketa) Slávik (anketa) being an example). Cheers! Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 11:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC) Actually, nevermind—I see how it happened, and I've taken care of it. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 11:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Efn template

Hello, I'm trying to change an indirectly related reference to a note. The problem is that the efn tag doesn't work because there are two links in the body of that reference. I only know the basic way of using the efn template. Namely, starting with {{efn| and ending with two curly brackets pointed in the opposite direction. I know the two links (starting with <ref>) are the problem, because if they are deleted, the ref. is changed to a note. Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 13:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

JimPercy, based on your recent contribs I presume this is about Paul Martin (illustrator)? There are a lot of notes and refs both in that article, so I'm unable to narrow down where your problem may lie.

It's been my experience that <ref>...</ref> tags work as usual within {{efn}}. It's somewhat common to substantiate explanatory footnotes with a supporting reference. External links shouldn't be broken by placing them inside {{efn}} either. So it's not entirely clear what doesn't work indicates here, nor your end goal for the text display.

Do you think you could explain for us with a bit more specificity? Folly Mox (talk) 14:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Re: "Paul Martin (illustrator)" reference 260. I was simply trying to change it from a ref. to a note, by changing the opening and closing <ref> tags to opening and closing efn tags. It did not work. I got the error message, "There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them..." I'm the one who originally inserted that reference. JimPercy (talk) 15:47, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

JimPercy I've tweaked the code so that it's now a note. Not sure I've got the right bits in, but the idea should be clear?? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:52, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but what I was really trying to do was transfer the ENTIRE ref. 260 to a note. That means everything from the words "This is indirectly related...TO...in print on Sep 22, 1933." JimPercy (talk) 17:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Looks like I duplicated the error, but correctly identified the fix.

To explain, many templates ({{efn}} is one), will accept unnamed parameters, which on the backend are handled as if named by numerals. For certain values, usually including special characters, some part of the software will misinterpret unless the unnamed parameter is explicitly defined with its positional numeral. The references here had a lot of = inside external links (i.e. not in nested template transclusions), which I suspect caused the error, although the error originating from the MediaWiki Extension:Cite rather than the efn template itself was pretty unexpected and unhelpful toward diagnosis. Folly Mox (talk) 17:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Okay it was solved. Adding two symbols did the trick. JimPercy (talk) 17:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I just read your explanation after my posting. I'm surprised then that the error message didn't show up in a couple other of those notes. They were also my conversions from ref. to note format (a month or so ago). JimPercy (talk) 18:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

An Wikipedia Ro Total block from a Biased Admin

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Hello there, I have requested that Romanian Editors to not infringe the Wikimedia Foundation Code of Ethics, and presented reliable proof that @Gdaniel111 was biased and posted non provable personal opinions when he modified the content of Article in Romanian Language "Calin Georgescu" and that they inflict even street unrest through these actions, and then the Admin @Giku has blocked my account in all possible situations with unlimited period, proof of their accumulated plan to eradicate all other opinions than their biased opinions, is the fact that my English Edited Article = in En.Wiki = which was used as reference for the Romanian Article, was again modified swiftly with unproven content such as "Pro-Legionar" (corected = not repeated) , Far Right Extremist (=own opinion, based on biased media articles infringed bylaw in Romania) and "Pro-Rusian" (=not confirmed by the living person himself but induced by media articles without proof), as it was left purposely unprotected. Please, take in attention this Article because in Romania this script has already generated Social Unrest, hour by hour amplified, and I have limited resources to counteract with Romanian Admins from Wikimedia, which prove to be biased, and is amplified also by all other channels, making reference of Romanian Wiki Article for a living person, which has not contributed neither approved the content of the Article about himself on Ro-Wiki. Thank you.

Mihai Botezatu, www.btzmich.com, @Rechinul = En.Wikipedia Rechinul (talk) 13:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, this is the English Wikipedia. We cannot help with anything on the Romanian Wikipedia - they are separate unaffiliated projects. qcne (talk) 14:00, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

More or less overt threats of taking an admin to court: no wonder he got blocked. tgeorgescu (talk) 14:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I sincerelly doubt that a Wikipedia article can have this kind of power. All Romanian media made its own research. We only wrote what media said, Călin Georgescu's declarations and their interpretation. Romanian media did not even notice when Romanian Wikipedia surpassed the 500k-article mark several weeks ago. Gdaniel111 (talk) 14:43, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. tgeorgescu (talk) 14:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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Suggestions for the privacy settings

I've prepared a content https://arceusx.app/blog/arceus-x-key/ to be posted here on wikipedia on my profile. What you guys (who have already posted on wikipedia) would suggest to keep the privacy setting like private not aloowed to edit or allowed to so its always saty updated?? E.loris (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Wrong platform entirely, I'm afraid. "Profiles" managed by the individuals represented therein are not something we host. Folly Mox (talk) 17:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, you're in the wrong place- you want social media, not a project to write an encyclopedia as this is. 331dot (talk) 17:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)