Talk:Trojan War

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2023

I want to help people understand things better UwU Varii.mp4 (talk) 15:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2023

lemme edit i see a typo Munasar12358952543 (talk) 15:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Not done: please indicate what mistake you see, so that an editor can review the passage in question and make any corrections necessary. If you want to edit the article yourself, you must be an autoconfirmed user, because this article is protected due to a high level of vandalism. Editing other articles over a period of time will help you become autoconfirmed. P Aculeius (talk) 15:32, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Agamemnon's role in mustering

"Menelaus then asked Agamemnon to uphold his oath, which, as one of Helen's suitors, was to defend her marriage regardless of which suitor had been chosen." But Agamemnon wasn't one of the suitors. Agamemnon entreated Tyndereus on Menelaus's behalf. The article itself narrates it that way.

"Agamemnon agreed and sent emissaries to all the Achaean kings and princes to call them to observe their oaths and retrieve Helen." Why is it Agamemnon calling on all the Achaean rulers, and not Menelaus himself? The movie "Troy" had Agamemnon as recently-established high king of all Greece; is that the case in any of the ancient sources?

Cythraul (talk) 15:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Presumably "his" refers to Menelaus, not Agamemnon. If Menelaus asked Agamemnon to change a tire on his chariot, we might assume that Menelaus is referring to his own chariot, not Agamemnon's. But this can easily be reworded to remove the ambiguity. I believe that Agamemnon is always treated as the chief of all the Greek forces arrayed against Troy, although sometimes we find him associated with his brother as joint leaders of the expedition. I imagine this was because he was the elder brother, and head of the House of Atreus. Menelaus would only have had moral authority as Helen's husband, but he might not have persuaded the other Greek kings to fulfill their oath. It was much harder to say "no" to Agamemnon! P Aculeius (talk) 16:29, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Eros's shot at Helen

The power of Eros to make couples fall in love is fundamentally rooted in his blindness. Therefore his accurate shot at Helen at the most opportune moment suggests strongly at a second shooter. The most likely perpetrator is Aphrodite herself, the mother of Eros, who has to pay Paris back. Xzhou.lumi (talk) 21:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)