Talk:Zechariah (Hebrew prophet)
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Article title
[edit]I have renamed this article as Zechariah (Hebrew prophet) (originally Zechariah). The shorter alternative Zechariah (prophet) could be ambiguous, as a later individual, Zechariah (priest), is considered a prophet in Islam. Fayenatic london 19:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
His death
[edit]How did Zechariah die? <-- This question was posted by 67.125.184.210 in July 2004.
- I have added a sentence on this quoting the source. Fayenatic london 19:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Italics, when referring to the Book of Zechariah
[edit]Use italics in places where Zechariah is used to refer to the biblical book, otherwise use (ironically) roman text; this helps to distinguish between the two.
I.E. Zechariah was written by Zechariah. — Dizzley (Peter H) 22:06, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Chapter 2?
[edit]I'm getting confused! Chapter 2 of Zechariah has the prophet in the first person narrative (verses 1-7a), but then the narrative switches from the "me" to the "him". I don't know if both of them refer to Zechariah or not, but the next verse (8) has the angel saying, "Tell this to that young man", which, according to the footnote in the NAB, is either an angel or a man with a measuring cord of verse 5! Can someone give me a clear interpretation? --Angeldeb82 16:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
External Links
[edit]I'm removing this entire section for the following reasons:
- Chabad.org - move to Book of Zechariah
- New RSV at anova.org - Not found. Book of Zechariah already has an alternative.
- Wikisource - empty
- James Palmer's Doctoral Dissertation on the Septuagint of Zechariah - just an abtract and table of contents, adds nothing.
Fayenatic london 08:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
In Islam
[edit]The Hadith (Book 030, Number 5863) gives no indication that this prophet is the same Zakariyya as was identified there as a carpenter. Unless someone can cite a connection from WP:RS, I propose to remove it from the article. – Fayenatic (talk) 12:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
A Georgian edit warring over EL
[edit]A Georgian I think I know what you want, but it is not clear. Your edit keeps breaking the wikiink which is why we keep reverting it. Per WP:BRD, please discuss your goal here on the Talk page. Jytdog (talk) 17:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- What is not clear is why the phrase, "not to be confused with the New Testament prophet" which disambiguated one Zechariah from another was removed. I asked for an explanation and so far have not received one. It is WP to explain an edit. The statement is nonsense without it. Now that I have articulated my reason for preserving the text as it was, I wait for a reason to change it. A Georgian (talk) 18:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- I will say this ONE MORE TIME. YOUR EDIT BREAKS THE WIKILINK.
- Wikilink before your change: Zechariah (priest), not to be confused with this earlier prophet
- Wikilink after your change: Zechariah (New Testament priest), not to be confused with this earlier prophet
- DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM? That is a real question. Please answer it. It is bad enough to break the article making a tendentious point, it is worse to not even know what you are doing and even worse yet to edit war over it. And the icing - even worse yet - is your note that doesn't ask a single question nor acknowledge that other editors may have valid and different points of view, much less that you might be incorrect. So much non-Wikipedian behavior over an external link. Jytdog (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- the edit was not mine, I reverted an edit. If the text as it was had a broken link in it, then fix it without removing the disambiguation. And I won't deal with you on this; your lack of civility is intolerable; this is the post to which I responded: (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM? That is a real fucking question. Answer it. It is bad enough to break the article making a tendentious point, it is worse to not even know what the fuck you are doing and edit war over it. Jytdog (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- What is not clear is why the phrase, "not to be confused with the New Testament prophet" which disambiguated one Zechariah from another was removed. I asked for an explanation and so far have not received one. It is WP to explain an edit. The statement is nonsense without it. Now that I have articulated my reason for preserving the text as it was, I wait for a reason to change it. A Georgian (talk) 18:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
. A Georgian (talk) 18:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Nice job, completely missing the point. Sure I let you get me angry and wrote an angry note; I went back and fixed it. You have not even acknowledged you were wrong yet. Jytdog (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
And you were wrong:
- 17:23, 21 November 2014 you first introduced the edit that broke the wikilink here
- the link was fixed here
- 21:52, 17 February 2015 you broke it again here
- 16:32, 18 February 2015 you edit warred your mistake back in here after it was corrected
- 17:41, 18 February 2015 you edit warred your mistake back in here after it was corrected
After I gave you an edit war warning and took time out of my day to show you your mistake, you finally understood it. WP:COMPETENCE is required. Having the self-insight to ask a question is useful. Saying "gee thanks I was wrong and i acted wrongly" would be good icing on the cake. Jytdog (talk) 19:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
His Father
[edit]Someone inserted randomly and out of rhythm this paragraph:
"According to 2 Chronicles 24:20, Jehoiada the priest is his father: Then the Spirit of God came on Zechariah son of Jehoiada the priest. He stood before the people and said, “This is what God says: ‘Why do you disobey the Lord’s commands? You will not prosper. Because you have forsaken the Lord, he has forsaken you.’ ”"
this isn't talking about the same Zechariah, so I deleted it, as it's out of place. please correct me if I'm wrong. Cornelius (talk) 16:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Two articles - Priest and Prophet?
[edit]Why do we have two articles on Zechariah? Prophet and priest — are they different? Is there any way to make this clearer from the article context for someone who may not be an expert on the topic? And maybe a hatnote? Seraphim System (talk) 12:04, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
References
[edit]Did any of the contributors read Zechariah before their input here? Wiki has a long way to go. 2603:9008:1900:D280:7CF0:D5B1:2E1A:F421 (talk) 06:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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